The parenthetical explanation draws too much attention to the pronouns and could feel othering or even risk outing Susan. require a college degree. Its making sure youre on the same page for the whole application package. It's absolutely disgusting. I do not have a college degree. For people I know who do this, their first choice is the first pronoun, but they are also perfectly fine with the second if its easier for you. I managed to find an apartment and someone who let me stay until I could get a job and pay my share of rent. Now its required for all but entry level. Yup, this is it (although the specific campaign I got hired for isnt door-to-door). 9 Cydcor reviews. I recently had a recruiter ask if Im interested in leaving X Company. Recruiters. Cydcor is known to be awful. OP#5, I always reply to recruiters on LinkedIn, because I have a strong suspicion about LinkedIns algorithms. Decades ago I was hiring engineers with a huge defense contractor, experience with a very new, DoD-specific integrated circuit device was required. I occasionally review college scholarship applications and we do sometimes get messy/careless letters of recommendation that have clearly been recycled. I agree on #2. 10. During that realization -period or progress, ONLY hearing how bad the company you work for is, and how much you have been fooled, probably is not the most helpful thing. Your not required to live with each other - though it usually works out that way. When the manager sits down with the interview, their number one concern is can this person start tomorrow. Experience at the company has caused you to have ethical concerns, and so you are looking for another role. Ripoff Report | Complaints Reviews Scams Lawsuits Frauds Reported. More importantly, OP if it bothers you, please look into going back to school. I cant quite figure out how that translates to an MLM setup., but it sure sounds.vague. My mind will sort of divorced itself from the source material so it wont fill in what isnt there or autocorrect in my brain what needs to be fixed. Apparently they recognized that I was suspicious, so on the second interview she was wearing a ring and talking to me about her husband repeatedly Once again they put forth quite an effort to perform a show for applicants. At least in my industry, your schools and degrees are often included as background information in client proposals, so keeping them secret is not an option. He emailed me several times and even called once, which I completely ignored. If it helps at all OP1, here are some stories from others who have worked there on the antimlm reddit: If Bob goes by they and you call them he, its misgendering. Cydcor Pyramid Scheme Cydcor affiliates use deceptive job ads stating marketing training when job is actually door-to-door sales. Yeah, this was my take. They care about everyone and encourage team members to support each other and collaborate. We were told to be "prepared" for the entire day, we were not told we would be following someone around listening to him pitch sales to people who for the most part weren't interested, and in the process would walk about 5 miles.You definitely need to be detirmined and have an assholish attitude by interupting store owners while they are trying to work.After the day, I felt like the job wasn't for me, but she was saying I would be a good candidate and how great the company was. There you go! I worked a few more weeks and I realized that even thought I liked being around some of the people, I ultimately had no burning need to be around those people the rest of my life. But are you rushing because you want to be done or because youre not given enough time for the work? Why was the HR person sharing peoples education levels in the break room? 4) you will have 3 interviews most likely: a- basic interview with manager to see if you are ambtious, independent, and easily manipulated/ b- day of observation where one of the "leaders" takes you on a day of door to door sales, pays for your lunch, and explains how this pyramid scheme isnt a pyramid because you dont lose the money you make . It Susan had to put it under an official birth name and wasnt given the opportunity to include a preferred name, this gives them a say in how theyd like materials affiliated with their application to address any potential discrepancies. Our graphic designer had done a new headline and laid the type herself instead of our usual process of us writing copy and approving before sending to her. If its ever not, I might have a decision to make. I really cant think of a legitimate reason why your HR person would be sharing this information to begin with. I would definitely flag this and say that I wanted to know what the reason for sharing peoples files are/if confidential info would be shared in the same way. Or the notion that if you've quit Cydcor in a few hours, days, weeks, months, or years, you have failed. I am proud of my education and certainly dont think it was a waste, although it was expensive. (I have a love/hate relationship with LinkedIn). They setup local pyramid schemes across USA selling products and services door to door. Im going to have to watch my savings pretty closely, but lots of places are hiring for the holidays, so Im not too worried about finding something thatll at least get me through the next few months. Despite this, the salesman training me went into 44 businesses that day and tried to lie to each of them. Convenient, in-person visits to customers' homes generate incremental sales for Cydcor's clients, reaching the customers that other marketing tactics miss. Got a call back right away from a company that seemed interesting. But to start disparaging education and educated people as a result both takes it too far and misses the point. (UK back into lockdown and Ive had panic attacks most of the day). OP2 Im curious about how senior management (ie, the audience) is able to call you out on the mistakes if this is the first time theyre seeing the presentation? A good example of a typo which hasnt ruined anyones day Alison has written education wrong in the title below your question. It was my fault somehow every time. But in a situation like this, its always okay to reach out to the student to clarify how theyd like to be referred to in the letter of recommendation to make sure youre on the same page as they are in terms of names/pronouns for the college application process. Our Brand Ambassadors act as the face of our clients and interact with our customers at our events. All rights reserved. This is the only company where I have seen it in action to the level it goes. But this bunch was acting like the entire summer camp counselor staff when theyre in front of the kids. And if when they first came out they said they were using it with everybody now, Id probably be less inclined to verify I do think you can use what you know of this kid! By the time the economy recovered, my training was out of date and I was running a craft business and making income-based repayments of $0.00 on my now $118K of student loan debt. Now the administrator has done her job and the applicant has reached the office for an interview. (In my case I quit and provided evidence to the prosecution when they ended up in the high court. They tell you that you can work out a deal regarding the base pay, but that is NOT true. And while usually no one finds anything earth-shattering that needs fixing, there are good discussions that come out of the process about methods, caveats, etc. Your solution to your mistake problem begins at home with the self-care you do at home. When people complain about the rising cost of a degree, they are right. It sounds like youre rushing, and that can definitely cause this. You can create a path when you do these things. So switch to purple comic or whatever, do proofread and change back. (And others mean I really dont care, of course.). Full stop, no explanation needed. I was in the business for a year and a half. But it is retail hours. Some workers have less formal education than others and there is no need to share that with their peers doing the same job. And watch out for autocorrect! If I saw they/he, I would use they. A long time ago, I got a weird phone call from someone who claimed he went to high school with me and asked if I wanted to hang out. What are the multiple roles of a successful introductory paragraph? LW3 as a fellow non-degreed person (freshman dropout with a GED); let me tell you this: having a degree doesnt define you. Hes been in his industry long enough that hiring managers care more about industry experience than his educational experience from 20 years ago. Why Ripoff Report will not release author information! Customer acquisition programs aimed at small and medium-sized businesses match client products and solutions to customers' unique needs. Im glad to give back some of the good feelings you have given me. #2: If youre able, try printing off the documents/presentation, or even change up the appearance on the computerdifferent font and line spacing. I keep a detailed checklist that is ever-evolving to include new things. Im pretty horrified by the HR manager discussing an employees education level in the break room. I dont think I have to do it for everyone because not everyone has a specific request around this. My Experience with a Multilevel Marketing Pyramid Scheme. But what happened to the Powerpoint, Excel, Word, conference calls, interviewing, and clerical duties? Come work now!!! One strategy Ive found that really helps me is to review everything in the reverse order of the way you originally did it. I also dont want the admissions committee to think I am writing about the wrong student or recycled a letter and forgot to change the pronouns. I found myself knocking on door after door trying to sell folks Verizon Fios. Is fresh success marketing a pyramid scheme? The branch Im at just opened up last year has a name no one will have heard of, but the umbrella company (several levels up) is Cydcor Marketing. I agree that you got a pile on when you were trying to be kind and encouraging. In the case of Cydcor, it is hard to say that offices are independent from Cydcor. Of course, they may feel that you perhaps lack judgment/experience, if youre junior, theyll chalk it up to a learning experience. Just do a google search under Cydcor scam. They is a great default pronoun for people of unknown/unspecified gender, and for people who it matches, but using it when you know someone uses a different pronoun is misgendering. Job is 100% commission going DOOR-TO-DOOR barging into businesses who does not want you there. Ooh, putting through translator &back is a good idea! I interviewed at a Cydcor-like company on accident once. Is the correct thing to say: 2. OP3 please dont be ashamed of your degree. It is simply gossip. 4. Tbc, because the choice to do so should be the students, not because its bad to disclose. Said teacher was a math teacher and writing was not one of his strengths. If the salary is X and we make X-$20 in commissions, our paycheck for the week will still be X, buuuuut if next week we make X+$70 in commissions, theyll take back the $20 they paid us last week to get us up to X. It would either be he put his resume in his briefcase or they put their resume in their briefcase. Wrinardo McKennedy has now scammed everyone in Illinois and moved on to Alabama! Ive been working for one of Cydcors ICLs. I mean keep figuring out why it happened and how to stop it until you are ready to scream. And OP#2 dont beat yourself up too much about this. It might actually depend on how they are applying. it helps me to print it out and mark on it as I go rather than proof on a computer screen it seems to help me spot mistakes that my eyes might glide over when Ive been staring at the same document on screen for hours. Now I know the proper etiquette, which makes me a better person. You can use Hemingway in your browser at hemingwayapp dot com. Yes Ive done quite a bit of work producing client-facing print materials (newsletters, reports, event advertisements, event agendas, etc.) is it rude to leave a coworker waiting for the elevator, I recommended a friend and it went terribly, and more. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. Re: OP1: beyond working to get out as quickly as you can (as you should), I might suggest to put in research as well on HR practices, duties, how good HR functions that sort of thing. 9. Using they pronouns in arecommendation letter without confusing people. I sort of agree with this (caveat being I am a cis queer). The NYT has a kajillion copy editors and people make mistakes there as well. You know, a tired, hungry, thirsty person is really going to struggle more with mental fog that a person who is rested with a decent meal and adequate water. There are also phone apps that will read content for you. And Daylight Savings wouldnt exist. So no, I dont think youre wrong to be upset. And Im glad it did because it boosted my confidence immeasurably. Nastiest Cydcor. I might reconsider your future with this company if this is how people there generally act. This kind of hands on experience and ways to cope from someone who has been there seems like much more appreciated info. We are pyramid scam under Cydcor. Yep- Fully agree with this. I've done a lot of research on Multi -level Marketing schemes (pyramid schemes) and 99.99% of the time people end up losing money. E.g., are you supposed to know that customer X got bought out by customer Y last year, but they havent changed names (or your accounting/sales system hasnt caught up with reality)? I imagine that so few people stay for 6 months, they dont expect to ever have to follow through. Like others have suggested, I ask a teammate to proof documents for presentation/distro and am amazed by what I miss. Im not saying sharing this information was appropriate or necessary in this particularly context, and it sounds like this HR person lacks judgement in other ways too, but its something that may come up again in an innocent context and since there is nothing shameful about your background, I think you would be better better off owning it. Not entirely sure what the hustle is here, but somebody Idk if this is really a scam but is this a trick to hack Are these type of events scams? Think about this if you are sunk into Phoenix Solution AKA Cydcor.If you check many of these items, and particularly if you check most of them, you might consider examining the group more closely. In this context, its pretty obvious that its about a single person, and I would expect most colleges to be hip to the notion of people choosing their pronouns. But this is a very local specific example and we dont fault new grads for accepting a job there because the bar hasnt been able to spread the word enough the company files defamation lawsuits against anyone that tries to warn the schools. Cydcor companies are not honest with their candidates and it is not because they are evil people that run these companies, it's because it's a system that has been in place for years and years. If youre looking for wording, something like I wanted to check with you about which name and pronouns youd like me to use in this letter. It was a really bad time. I am not trans or nonbinary but this is my understanding as well based on people I know. Youre not committing a faux pas. But Ive been working for 30 years and Ive (mostly) managed fine without one, as I am sure you will. Were all ashamed of silly stuff; we should only change for a purpose. But for anyone considering working for a Cydcor subsidiary, unless you have literally 0 experience, do not take a job there. Plus, networking contacts are often useful down the line. Exactly. Cydcor is a real company and resell services for Rogers. And searching for another job like crazy. This BS company is really just a pyramid scam!!!! I think youve done this before but Im always a fan. We recently explained to our US offices that we needed to make education information private in our systems (only visible by manager chain and HR) for this exact reason. As if a decade+ of relevant work experience AND an MBA count for nothing because of an unrelated bachelors degree from last century! If someone laughs, remember your accomplishments and walk away proud. These marketing or advertising companies are ISOs and are setup as a management training program. Yep, Im working towards my third degree. They're the one making the most money at the location, and all they're worried about is paying off google/yahoo/separate PR firms to make that location/business appear legit. Ran a lot of impacts and meetings. All or nothing. They promise people to be their own boss and make 6 figures in a year but the only people making 6 figures are the few at the top of the scheme (a handful of folks); everyone is working their butts off probably for less than min wage, no benefits, etc. Get backup. This reminds me of some random tweet I saw where the person was sitting in the college library listening to a guy brag about his ACT scores, and the person thinking I signed up for the ACTs, forgot about them, and we still ended up at the same college. While you usually dont want to complain about an employer during an interview, it does make sense in this case to state that you learned that the company was an MLM and that youre not comfortable with this business model. When you come back to it, youll see the errors. #5. One example that I can think of from my own life is a friend who was a police officer. If its someone I know, Id ask them which they prefer, or if they like the mix. There is a lot of information that is not private that one should use discretion in sharing. It really helps! Many offices go through the very same interview process each and every day by giving applicants false hope of what they are applying for. Its an argument for checking with Susan lw can point out that she wants people to know the letter goes with their application materials and make sure the name Susan is on there somewhere but thats about it imo. Work 6 days a week. Sometimes, when people find out, they make surprised faces. They dont need to keep people, they just need to keep people long enough to get some work out of them that is essentially free labor due to the horrible commissions. If you are in the 1% you will make $1-$2k per month while ruining your life. There are personal development trainings offered to help each person succeed. If it wasnt for all of the above stuff, Id be totally fine with selling office supplies door-to-door for low pay- I like to think I am humble and try to work hard, I actually used to wash dishes at restaurants in high school. Even at Ivy adjacent kind of places, letters of rec are fairly far down the list on the list of reasons why you would or would not admit this person unless its coming from someone a building is named after/is on the board of trustees. EDIT: I see my thread sort of actually catching on; if something doesn't make sense to you please let me know in the comments and I'll be glad to clarify. Mind-numbing techniques are used to suppress doubts about the group or its leader(s).6. Working retail sucks in nearly every way, but it produces a paycheck. CEO Approval. 1)Keep the interview on their toes so that they take the interview serious. 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